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boehner has been very clear. i think rev news are -- revenues are on the table. life's filled with compromises, we'll see where that goes. so, no, last time, you're right, it didn't work. we weren't facing quite the same set of circumstances we're facing today, and so i'm cautiously optimistic, although i will also just say lastly that people sometimes say, okay, there's either a deal that looks like simpson-bowles or we go off the cliff. we could end up with all kinds of outcomes that may be less than i would like, maybe less that all of you would like or at least something. i'm hoping it's more over here. but i don't know. >> and, steve, so we are gathered here to talk about u.s. global competitiveness. how important is resolving these issues to the american position in the global economy? >> well, first of all, i think it's important not just to our position in the global economy, but our position in the world. admiral mullen who is the previous chairman of the joint chiefs of staff said our greatest national security threat was our lack of fiscal resources and the state of
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